Wendy introduces you to Adrian Mamikonian

Wendy Valentine: Hey, midlife mavens. Welcome back to the midlife Makeover show. Today, I’m excited to introduce you to someone who’s all about helping women over 40. That’s, us. Reclaim their vitality and live life to the fullest. Meet Adrian Mamikonian, an expert in supporting women through the ups and downs of perimenopause, fat loss, energy, slumps, stress, and so much more. Her holistic approach helps women not only feel better in their own bodies, but also find the resilience and strength to live vibrant, fulfilling lives. If you’re ready to feel more energized. Yes, please. Balanced and empowered, you’re going to love this conversation. Let’s give a warm welcome to Adrienne.

Adrian Mamikonian: Thank you, Wendy.

“Midlife ” is the best season of the show, I think

It’s so fun to be here, and it’s always so good to connect with these women that are just, like, bringing life to this midlife conversation. I love it so much, and I love what everybody has to bring to the table to help each other just get through this period of time that is so wacky.

Wendy Valentine: Yes, I know. it’s interesting that you say that, because I’ve been thinking about that a lot lately. I love that there’s so many people out there like you, like myself, like people that are listening, that we’re changing. Literally the conversation about midlife. Like, it’s like, it’s. It’s a season, yes, but it’s the best season, I think.

Adrian Mamikonian: I love it. It’s like the best kept secret. If you’re not there yet. I know, it’s amazing.

Adrienne is a nutrition coach who works with women over 40

Wendy Valentine: So what inspired you to work with women over 40 now? Why not twenties or thirties? But why so inspiring about these beautiful midlife women?

Adrian Mamikonian: I think for me, it’s because I am over 40, but I started in my thirties with nutrition and fitness and really getting into the health and wellness industry, and, that was wonderful and taught me so much about nutrition, and I’m sure we’ll get into all of that. But then as I got older, my clients also got older, and they’re like, hey, Adrienne, coach, this is not like, something is off here. Something needs to change. Things are shifting again, just like they did when I was 37. Now I’m a whole new person. And so I really had to do my job as a coach and say, okay, it’s not. Nutrition and fitness are the absolutely the backbone of any, you know, health and wellness if you’re trying to get healthy. But what’s, what else, you know, there’s sleep, there’s stress. So I went and got some certifications in integrative health, sleep, stress, and recovery so that I could support my clients, through this period of mid life, where it’s a little bit more tricky, to be honest. It’s not like you can’t just do calories in, calories out. It just doesn’t really. It’s not quite that simple. so that’s what I really love, is just really giving women, just feeling like, themselves again, you know?

Wendy Valentine: Yeah.

Adrian Mamikonian: Yeah.

Wendy Valentine: It’s interesting, though, right? Like, I think back to Steven, the last probably five years, and noticing those sometimes, you know, minor but major changes in your body, and, like, what you would, like, even before you would know, like, oh, I can eat this, and I can feel this way afterwards. And then now it’s like, no, that’s not true. Or, you know, oh, I wouldn’t be bloated, but now I am bloated. Like, there’s so many different changes that your body is. And so it’s like learning, I think, more about your body, what it likes, what it doesn’t like, and it is like a new body, really, after 40.

Adrian Mamikonian: But in a good way, it changes, and then it’s. It’s new again. Like you were saying, sometimes I can eat these foods, and then, oh, now it’s really. Don’t make me feel that good. So we have to kind of be constant, be a little bit flexible in that way.

Women always come to me for weight loss or fat loss

Wendy Valentine: What do women struggle with the most? Is it the weight loss? Like, struggling with the weight loss? Is it muscle mass? Is it the sleepless nights? What’s the biggest complaint?

Adrian Mamikonian: I mean, all of the above, but women always come to me for weight loss or fat loss. Their body is changing. They don’t feel good, and everyone has different goals for themselves, but everyone wants to feel good. Nobody wants to feel bad. And so coming to me with, like, I’ve been doing this my whole life, and now it doesn’t work. It’s not working anymore. You know, I was a runner. I personally was a marathon runner. So I get a lot of people coming that have done a lot of cardio, and they don’t realize that after 40, we are losing that muscle mass. And that is what is determining your metabolism by far more than hormones, more than anything else. It’s the amount of muscle mass that we have. So, that’s where that conversation really starts. It’s like, okay, you’re, you know, you’re in your forties. You’re really feeling, like, especially around the midsection, you’re more bloated. And you, you feel like you eat healthy and exercise and nothing is working, so.

Wendy Valentine: Right. Yeah, I know. For me, like, something that’s shifted drastically just in the last few weeks, I ended up getting a, coach, a trainer, and incorporating more weight training. And that has made a huge difference. Just adding in two days, a week of strength training and how much more I’m burning fat. Just by doing that, even, like, I mean, as much as I would do cardio, I would do, like, spinning classes. And you could run miles and miles and miles and still not burn the amount of fat that you can with strength training. It’s amazing.

Adrian Mamikonian: Yes. And then the best part about it is then you’re burning it all night, all day, all night. I mean, when you do cardio, you might burn more calories in the actual session, but when you’re doing strength training, not only are you burning fat all day and all night for the next many, many hours, but that muscle that you’re building is going to burn more fat at rest so that you can actually eat more and not gain, which is the goal. Right.

Wendy Valentine: That’s what, that’s when you don’t mind the night sweats and the hot flashes. If it’s because you’re burning calories, yes, bring it on. I’ll sweat all day long. But isn’t that true, though, too? I was thinking about this, like, how much a difference it makes when you feel good in your body. And, I mean, if we’re. I mean, I’m 50 turning 52. I plan to live another 50 years. And I think about my 90 year old self, right. And I want to take care of her. So it’s like, I want to be able to take walks in the park or play with grandkids or be able to go to the grocery store and carry my, own groceries. Like, we have to think about those things. And it’s like what you. What we’re doing now is going to make a huge difference.

Adrian Mamikonian: Absolutely. Because if, we’re at 60 or 70, it doesn’t mean you can’t get, you can’t make progress. You absolutely can. But you have to be thinking, okay, I want them, because we lose muscle mass every year, a percentage every year after 35. We want to get ahead of that curve so that we’re not, you know, that we’re not so behind. But absolutely, you want to be thinking about where, you know, what am I going to be doing at 90? Am I still going to be traveling? Do I want to be, do I want to be active. I know. I mean, my parents. Parents are in their eighties, and they are, like, all over the world, traveling, playing golf. They have their social life. So it’s so inspiring, because that’s, It motivates me to want to stay active, but not at the expense of not living my life, you know? I mean, we have that balance.

Wendy Valentine: You and I were talking about this before we hit record, but I think the key is, is, like, to be able to be active and eat. So that. What am I trying to say? What were we saying before about, like, where it’s not taken away from your life, it’s not so strict, right.

Adrian Mamikonian: That, it’s all or nothing. Yeah.

Wendy Valentine: Yes, exactly. Like the 75 hard thing I was talking about.

Adrian Mamikonian: Yeah. Whole 30 or for me, like, whole 24 hours. Is that.

Wendy Valentine: Yeah.

There are many ways to lose weight without strict dietary guidelines

So let’s talk a little bit more about that. Kind of like, it’s a little bit more easy going process and fitting it into your lifestyle. Because here’s the thing. Like, we get. We’re, you know, most of us could be empty nests. It’s a time to, like, get out and go play more. And it’s like, you don’t want to be sitting there, like, in the gym all the time, or, oh, I’m just going to sit here and eat this salad. Like, you still want to be able to really enjoy your life and go travel.

Adrian Mamikonian: Yes. And you don’t want to be passing up things like, you know, you have to think, too. When I turn 90 or 90. 05:00 a.m. i going to really be thinking about, you know, oh, I’m so glad I had that salad that day, you know, at lunch or whatever, you know. No, we have to be. We have to have those memories over macros, is what I sometimes say to my clients who are tracking macros, that, okay, if you’re going on vacation, bye. You know, I’ll see you when you get back. you don’t need to be researching if there’s a gym at your hotel. You can take a walk, you can get steps in. You can be active as a family. There’s so many ways to get there without that, you know, without that, you know, restriction of, I have to eat this, I have to follow the meal plan every single day. So we have to have that room for flexibility. And the way that we do that is through strategies that are building muscle and helping our bodies be more flexible metabolically. So, for example, I will have clients come to me that have done keto. Maybe they’ve done, been successful with keto and lost a bunch of weight and done that for a period of time. And they, you know, they just don’t feel good on it anymore. They want something new. And it takes a while because when you start introducing carbs right away, your body is not flexible. So when we have these, you know, cycles like we do in the faster way, we are really training our bodies to be flexible so that we can enjoy those things. And it’s not going to make a huge difference, in our progress.

Wendy Valentine: And I had heard, too, red a stat somewhere about how, how stress, stressing about losing weight is actually worse on your body than just trying to lose the weight. Like, stressing about it so much.

Adrian Mamikonian: Yes, absolutely. And there’s just as no reason to, because you can, you can make really small shifts in your day that hardly feel noticeable, and they can, over the long term, make a huge difference. Now, it’s not overnight, you know, but is going to give you that long term success that everyone, of course, is, you know, is striving for.

Wendy Valentine: Yeah.

Protein is one of the macronutrients. And then we also have fat and carbohydrates

Let’s talk more about the. What did you get the macronutrients? Is that what you referred to as.

Adrian Mamikonian: Yes.

Wendy Valentine: Yeah, let’s talk about that. What is. I have never done that.

Adrian Mamikonian: Well, everybody knows about protein, right? I feel like.

Adrian Mamikonian: It’s like, all over my Instagram feed lately. Like, how much protein? Over 40. We got to have our protein. We got to get protein. So protein is one of the macronutrients. And then we also have fat and we have carbohydrates. So in the program that I coach, we track for a period of time. I tell my clients, it’ll go up, you’ll. You’ll get tired of it, and you’ll need a break, and then you might go back to it. You want to tighten things up, that’s fine. But it’s a great tool because for me and for many of my clients, it switched my mentality in terms of, I haven’t had enough of this today. I haven’t had enough fats today. I haven’t had enough carbs today. and so I actually need more in order to fit my macros for the day. So instead of calories, it’s a different way of tracking versus calories in, calories out, because you could be eating, you know, things that don’t make you feel.

Wendy Valentine: Yeah, exactly.

Adrian Mamikonian: Yeah.

Wendy Valentine: Is there a certain amount of proteins that, that we should have in a day?

Adrian Mamikonian: Yeah, that’s a great question. So, in general, it’s about 0.8 to 1 gram per pound of body weight, your ideal weight. So maybe not your weight right now, but, like, what your. Your body’s ideal weight is. One 1 gram per per pound is about, is about. Right. And I highly recommend you get a food scale, even though it sounds like, oh, my gosh, that seems like, like, so tedious. I don’t want to get out my scale every time. And I just say, just weigh your protein, because you will be shocked at how little protein you are eating. You think you’re eating 4oz of chicken? I guarantee you it’s only two.

Wendy Valentine: Yeah, I know. I’ve been trying to watch that more lately. And, I get to the end of the day, I’m like, I feel like I’ve eaten a lot, but I’m like, oh, my God. I only had maybe 50 grams of protein, right? And I should be having, what, like 130, I guess, right? According to my weight, should be, yeah, a hundred. That’s a lot.

Adrian Mamikonian: Yes. So that’s one thing, is that people really learn. When we’re doing, macro tracking, we start macro tracking. They’re like, oh, my gosh, I didn’t realize it. I thought I was eating so much protein, and I’m not really, you know, because people can eat clean or eat healthy, but that doesn’t mean you’re eating the right amount of macronutrients.

Wendy Valentine: Exactly.

Adrian Mamikonian: And the other thing that people realize is because everybody thinks they’re eating too many carbs. Right. People think, I shouldn’t have so many carbs. I should skip the bread. And carbs, by the way, are also fruits, starchy veggies, you know, not just pasta, you know, bread.

Wendy Valentine: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Adrian Mamikonian: But, when they start tracking, they’re like, oh, my gosh, I’m eating not even close to enough carbs, and I’m eating way too much fat, which the reason that’s important is because fat has more than double the calories per gram, which is why a little tablespoon of olive oil is so high in calories.

Wendy Valentine: Now, what about carbs? Like, as far as amount? Is there a certain amount that we should try to get in a day? And does that change? Does it fluctuate? Does it depend on, like, if we need to lose weight or gain muscle?

Adrian Mamikonian: M. It depends on, It really depends on your body’s sensitivity, and it depends on what your workout is for that day. So we kind of have a little cycle that we do in the faster way where if we are doing strength training that day, we need more carbs, basically. Got to replenish that energy and really fuel our bodies. But when you’re doing, like, high intensity intervals, you, don’t need carbs. You know, you still need the same amount of calories, but you don’t need as many carbs. So we kind of cycle them that way so that we are depleting our glycogen stores when we’re doing that hIIT training and then really getting our carb stores down so our body’s burning fat, and then we replenish those on the days that we strength train to really give us that, you know, that energy back.

How do you fit all that in when traveling with four children

Wendy Valentine: Now, you travel a lot, right? So how is that. How do you fit all that in?

Adrian Mamikonian: Like, this is probably, like, my number one question that people ask me, because we live in Europe, and we travel at least once, if not twice, twice a month, and I am not cooking on vacation. And so I don’t know about you, but I. That is not. We have four children. that is not my jam. I want hotel amenities. I want free hotel breakfast. Like, you know, I’m not doing that. So I really have to be strategic because we travel so much now. We walk a lot. You know, we can get out and have an active vacation. We don’t. I don’t need to be, you know, research gym and all of that, but, But we can still have an active vacation as a family, and I can try all the things that I want to try. And I think that is the thing is, you have to tell yourself, everything is available to me. Yes. You don’t have to have everything all the time.

Wendy Valentine: Right? It doesn’t. And it doesn’t have to be perfect, like a perfect plate of food. Every single time, your body will adjust. And if anything, you are teaching your body to adjust, to be more resilient.

Adrian Mamikonian: Yes, absolutely. When you’re cycling up and down, that kind of, like, you know, that just between, you know, eating more and then eating less, and, you know, I do some intermittent fasting in there, and that really helps, too, to keep that metabolic flexibility. but, yeah, so it’s just, you know, it’s choosing what you want. I tell my clients when they’re going on vacation, just pick and choose the things that you really want and just leave the rest. You don’t have to eat it just because it’s there. You don’t have to drink it just because it’s there. But if you want it, go ahead. And then that, that releases that sort of anxiety about, like, oh, am I going to have this or am I not? Or I can’t have it, but now I really want it. You know, that kind of dance we do in our minds.

Wendy Valentine: And I think no matter where you go, you can pretty much find something that will work. Right. Like, even if it’s a chicken sandwich, then, okay, get the chicken sandwich without the bread. Right. Like, there’s ways to figure it out. And I think it’s like learning the foods work for you, and the amount of the, of the proteins, like you said, and the carbs, you figure it out. Like, it’s not, yeah, it’s not that.

Adrian Mamikonian: Hard, you know, in your mind, like, I know now I don’t have to get up my food scale now. And most of my clients, if you do it for just a few weeks, you can really get to be intuitive on, okay, I know I’m under on protein today. I know, you know, I need more of this, or I know that I’ve had, you know, a good amount of this macronutrient. And, yeah, I mean, you can just even pick a meal when you’re out and just say, okay, I know we’re going to this place. We heard about it, we’ve looked it up. We made a reservation. This is going to be a really indulgent meal. So that, so I’m going to think about that when I’m making choices on the rest of the day and just make sure it’s balanced.

Wendy Valentine: So do you work with people one on one?

Adrian Mamikonian: I do. So I do a program. So when, when clients come to me and they’re like, I’m, you know, I’m over 40, I want to lose weight and all of that, I say, the first thing I say is, how is your nutrition and exercise? Do you have that down? Are you strength training? Are you eating enough protein? Because sometimes people come to me and they’re like, yeah, I’m doing that. I’ve got all that, and I’m also not sleeping stressed out, you know, all of those things. So I always start there because it doesn’t matter what supplements you’re taking. It doesn’t. All that stuff is irrelevant if you’re nothing. Starting with a foundation of nutrition and exercise and strategies in that realm. So once we’ve got that down, and I do that in a group, in a group program, but then if clients are like, okay, Adrienne, I’m doing all of those things, and I’m still really struggling, and I don’t know what’s going on, then we can go further and I can say, okay, we can do some testing. We can test, you know, sleep stress and metabolism. We can do testing.

Adrian Mamikonian: because why do we struggle so.

Wendy Valentine: Much with sleep in our forties and fifties?

Adrian Mamikonian: No, it really is that. It really is that hormonal shift. And then I personally, I don’t have, you know, this is just me personally, I think it’s also because there are lifestyle factors that come up in our forties. You know, I have teenagers. I’ve got kids about college. My parents are getting older. We’re often, starting.

Wendy Valentine: It’s their different kind of stresses. And sometimes they’re good stresses, right? Like, they’re things that they were excited about. Like, I, Sometimes for me, I can’t sleep. No joke, because I’m, like, creating new stuff in my head or, like, while I’m drum. Like, I don’t know if I was dreaming or thinking, but I need to get up and write that down, you know? I mean, it’s kind of funny. It’s like you think about here we had all those sleepless nights with the babies, you know? I know. Yeah. Yeah. And I do think probably a lot of it is just hormones.

Adrian Mamikonian: It is. And it’s always at 03:00 a.m. m, isn’t it? It’s like, I just wrote a blog article about that, the 03:00 a.m. wake ups, because it always seems to be 03:00 a.m. i don’t know why.

Wendy Valentine: And I do think, right, like, you, you find you figure out what works for you. And I know for me, like, getting to bed earlier does help. Like, if I go past 1030, I’m like, yes, but if I.

When we don’t sleep, the hormone that controls hunger goes up

Even if I get into bed 930 and I’m reading for an hour, that’s better for me.

Adrian Mamikonian: Long Runway to, ah, sleep now is kind of what I’ve, what I.

Wendy Valentine: And melatonin. I love my melatonin. But even also, like, the foods that we eat though, too, right? I mean, now I’m learning what does not work well for me. Like, I could probably eat it for lunch, certain foods at lunch, but not at dinner. They’ll either wire me or tire me too much or whatever.

Adrian Mamikonian: Right? Magnesium can also help at night to just cure anxiety. That’s really helpful. But it is so important because when we don’t sleep, when we don’t get a good night’s sleep, the hormone, that controls our hunger goes up, so we feel more hungry. But the hormone that tells us that we’re full goes down. So we have, that’s why we kind of, when we’re not sleeping. We kind of make poor food choices, not just because we’re too tired to make a salad or whatever.

Wendy Valentine: Right.

Adrian Mamikonian: Because our brain chemistry is actually different when we’re not sleeping, when we haven’t slept.

Wendy Valentine: I love that this is more of a holistic approach because, you know, sometimes, like, you can hire, you can hire a coach, but they only spec, you know, they specialize in one area, maybe just fitness or just nutrition, but you’re, you’re the whole kitten caboodle, right?

Adrian Mamikonian: And I think for me, it was necessity because not just my clients, but I, was. I went through a period where I was chronically ill and I was injured all the time. And I. Even while I was eating healthy, exercising, lifting heavy, doing all of the things, and I thought, oh, my gosh, I just don’t know what is going on. And when I was forced to restore, bring my stress level down, you know, I’m a military wife, my husband’s gone. You know, we have a, I have a very high stress lifestyle. when I was forced to rest, all the inflammation in my body disappeared.

Wendy Valentine: I mean, m and you gave yourself permission to rest.

Adrian Mamikonian: And I. So I really had to. Well, and I was also injured. So then that was the secret. I really had to. I was like, oh, there’s something to this. I’ve got to learn more about this because I can’t be the only one who, is struggling with this side of it.

Wendy Valentine: Yeah, that’s tough because, yeah, sometimes our bodies will, like, tell us, and we’re like, kind of like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then it’s finally screaming at us, like, okay, fine, I will rest. I know.

Adrian Mamikonian: It’s like, it’s always something, right? I have a friend that calls it the organ recital. She’s like, okay, what’s going on today? Like, you know, this is aching. And then the next day it’s fine, and then, you know, so it’s kind of par for the course.

What are some simple strategies just for reducing stress? I know that’s kind of

Wendy Valentine: What are some simple strategies just for reducing stress? I know that’s kind of like a vague question, but just a few things that we can add into our daily activities just to reduce some stress and.

Adrian Mamikonian: Absolutely, that’s a great question. And I really think of it as everyone thinks, talks about yoga and meditation, and those are fantastic. Not everybody responds to that. So I personally, I will do yoga. It’s not my favorite, but there are so many different types of stress. So if you are eating junk food all day, that’s nutritional stress on your body, if, you know, so there’s all kinds of different types of stress that we’re dealing with on a daily basis, and we can’t always control it. So it’s like people say, lower your stress. It’s like, well, I mean, I have the kids and this and that, so we can’t always control our stress. And I think that’s kind of a relief sometimes when I tell clients that, like, you don’t have to really drastic, you don’t have to quit your job and make drastic changes in your life. You just have to do simple things like, can you get some morning sunlight? In the morning and sit with your coffee and get morning sunlight? I mean, that sets the tone for your entire day. It’s going to help you sleep better that night because you’ve got that morning sunlight. And then the next thing I say is, can you then? And after they’ve done that, maybe we add things one at a time so it doesn’t feel extreme. You need to go for a daily walk. It’s, like the secret to life. I mean, it’s gonna, it really, it’s good for your vagus nerve, it’s good for bringing your cortisol down. You can socialize, you can call a friend and you get that, you know, that social support, which is so important for stress relief. So it’s not always taking things off. It’s just about making these little shifts in your daily routine and you’re gonna be feeling so much better.

Wendy Valentine: Walking is like my new fav thing, especially in, you know, being in the city here, it’s like, I love just like, people watching and taking in the energy and just observing and getting some sunshine and I love it. I used to, I mean, I hadn’t really, like, walked that much, but walk sounds silly, but as far as, like, exercise, you know, like, and there’s days where if I’m working a lot, I can’t get to the gym. I’m like, okay, I’m at least gonna go do some walking.

Adrian Mamikonian: Yes. At the bare minimum, just be, just get out for a walk. It’s so good, it’s so good for our brains to get that outside walking and even just navigating terrain is just so good for us and so good for our nervous system. So anything like that and then anything else that just feels good to you, I love to. What? I have, but we have siestas here in Spain in the afternoon, so everything is closed. So I’ve taken upon myself to do my own siestas in the afternoon. And so, you know, I’ll have a busy day. And I know that my kids get home at 245, or whatever the case may be. And I take an hour before that and I put everything away and I go lay down and I read my book or I watch tv or whatever it is that, for me, feels relaxing. So it doesn’t have to be something. You don’t have to meditate. Like, you can do something that sounds fun to you or sounds relaxing. You can take a bath.

Wendy Valentine: So there’s about to say take a bath. I miss, like, this apartment, and the RV obviously does not have a bathtub. I’m like, I love. That was, like, my favorite thing to do. I would do, like, epsom salt, a little bit of lavender. I’d like, lay in there for 20 minutes, and then I just crawl into bed. I was like, oh, I mean, that’s so good for sleep.

Adrian Mamikonian: It is. It is like the best.

Wendy Valentine: Sleep, sleep.

Adrian Mamikonian: So.

Wendy Valentine: Yeah, definitely. And then.

Living Wellwith Adrienne helps people with their fitness routines

So you also help people, like, with their fitness routines then.

Adrian Mamikonian: Yeah, so we do. So we start with six weeks where I teach you how to. Well, first I set up your macros for you. So everybody’s different. Everyone has different carb sensitivities. Everyone has different goals. So I set your macros individually for you. and they’re personalized to you. So. So then we do. So I teach my clients about that, the macros. And then we add in some intermittent fasting. Again, that’s dependent on, you know, if you have some other things going on, we talk about that. We got to work with your hormones, with fasting, especially with women. And then. And then we add in some of the carb cycling that I was talking about earlier, where we pair what we are eating with our workout for that day. The workouts are new, 365 days a year, so you’re never repeating a workout. And they are 30 minutes home or gym. You can do either. There’s both available to you. And it’s so great because you just have an app that you just. I just take it with me to the gym and I can get in and out in 30 minutes. And I promise you that is all you need.

Wendy Valentine: Yeah, exactly. It doesn’t have to be super crazy and stressful. Adding more stress that you don’t need. Right?

Adrian Mamikonian: Yes. Yeah.

Wendy Valentine: I think I had shared with you. I did have. I cannot think of her last name, but her first name was Amy, but she was also with the faster way to fat, loss. Is that right? What right was called? And I tried the app. It’s really a good app. It’s really, really good, because you can track all of your food. It’s got the workouts on there. Everything that you need is right there. And it’s nice because it’s with you, obviously. We usually take our phones with us everywhere we go. So if you are on vacation or if you’re traveling, if you’re, you know, out of town, something like that, then you have that with you all the time.

Adrian Mamikonian: Yes. And you can just pop in the app, and it will track your food. And if you following the meal guide, if you’re at home and you want to follow the meal plan, you can. You don’t have to, but if you do, it’s all tracked for you, so you don’t have to track it. So it really. We’re always trying to do everything to make it as easy and, stress free as possible.

Wendy Valentine: I can vouch. It is very, very simple. It is not complicated at all. And then even some of the foods that I would put in there, there, like, it would know the foods already, like, the different brands and how many, what the fat content was, the protein, the carbs. Really, really good. I was like, oh, this thing is nice.

Adrian Mamikonian: Yeah.

Wendy Valentine: But it gets easy. Like, maybe, like, the first week or two, you’re kind of, like, getting used to it, and then the different foods, but then after a while, you’re like, oh, okay, I know. How much is in an avocado or a piece of chicken? right?

Adrian Mamikonian: Yes. Yeah. So you can just input those, and you can also save your recipe. So, like, I have the same smoothie almost every single day just because I like it. So it’s not like I have to input the individual ingredients. I can just create a recipe and save that. If that’s something that I eat frequently, then that gets to be easier because you can just, like, pop it in from your, from your favorites list. So it does really help.

Wendy Valentine: I love it, I love it, I love it, love it. so where can we find you?

Adrian Mamikonian: So you can find me on Instagram, livingwellwith Adrienne. Feel free to send me a message there.

Wendy Valentine: And, yeah, and, yeah, you’ve got a great instagram. I was looking at some of your reels and stuff like that. It’s really, really good.

Adrian Mamikonian: Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, it’s super fun. I love social media.

Wendy Valentine: It’s fun. Love hate relationship. I wish it was more of me, like, where I could do more.

Adrian Mamikonian: So much.

Wendy Valentine: All right, thank you so much, everyone. Have a great day.