AlLana Pratt is an intimacy expert and global media personality

Wendy Valentine: Welcome back to the Midlife Makeover show, where we ditch the scripts, spark transformation, and celebrate this bold and beautiful chapter of life. Today’s guest is bringing the heat, the heart, and the healing. Meet Alana Pratt, intimacy expert, global media personality, and the go to authority for those ready to stop settling and start experiencing soul shaking relationships. I like how that sounds. She has coached celebrities, authored six books, and racked up over, ah, 5.6 million YouTube views. You go, girl.

Allana Pratt: Over 6 million. Now we, we popped the six bubble.

Wendy Valentine: Let’s change that. And racked up over 6 million YouTube views with her Real Talk and Raw Truth and her podcast, Intimate Conversations. Hello. It’s a must listen for any one looking to become the one to find the one. Been there, done that. Yeah. In today’s episode, we’re diving into the power of self intimacy because let’s face it, midlife is the perfect time to turn inward, heal old wounds, and reconnect with the most important relationship of all, the one we have with ourselves. Elena is here to show us how emotional wholeness and radical self love become the foundation for the epic love stories we all crave. Buckle up for some laughs. Aha. moments, and maybe even a little blushing and, blushing right now. Please welcome the fabulous Atlanta to the show.

Allana Pratt: Oh, I need to play the way you introduce me on my, like my wake up alarm every morning. Oh, Andy, thank you.

Wendy Valentine: So a lot of people have said, I’m like, maybe this will be like my new gig. You know, I just record like alarm Clock. Like, welcome to the new day. it is so great to meet you. And I’m so. I, I was looking on your website, as I usually do with like, most of my guests, is like, I study my next victim. I’m just kidding. I stalk.

Allana Pratt: Me.

Wendy Valentine: Yeah, I stalk. I look around and like, there’s so much good stuff. It’s so amazing what you’ve done. And I even said to you right before I was asking how many books you have, and you’re like, you’re on, you’re like six and two journals or something. Like, I’m on my first. And I’m like, but it is such, it’s, it’s one of those types of businesses and it’s a way of life, right, that you, you, you love it, you stick with it, it’s consistent. And you, you’re making such a huge, huge difference in the world. So I am so grateful that you became this beautiful butterfly and you’re flapping your wings and like the butterfly effect, you know, like, you’re making such great changes in the world. So thank you. And my.

Take us back and tell us a little bit of your story

And I told you I’m not much of a Q A kind of gal. But I’m going to ask you a question. Take us back and tell us a little bit of your story of how did you get into this intimate niche of.

Allana Pratt: Yeah, I thank God I didn’t take over Pratt’s Pharmacy, the little drugstore with the big heart. Thank God I didn’t get along with my parents terribly well so that I, I flew the coop. Hopped on Uncle Phil’s 18 wheeler semi when I was 19. Quit college. They were pissed. had $40 left to my name. I moved to LA to be a dancer. And I, I was good enough, like, talented enough, courageous enough. I didn’t have the, like the work visa. Right. So I was going to turn around and go home and admit failure. But that’s not like me. I’m too fucking stubborn for that. and it was just really in the nick of time. I got a job dancing in Japan and I flew all the way over there. I was a dancer, a model, an English teacher, a spokesperson. I spent four years there. And it was because I wasn’t like a connection from mom or dad. It was like I earned this, I created this, I cultivated this. And I’d never known that kind of mix between complete bold show up power and complete surrender. Let go. Who the fuck knows what’s going to happen? Like this beautiful blend. Yeah. And then taking that, energy to backpack around Thailand or China or Bali, these different places, and really, really discover we, we are the creators of our life. I think I was quite naive then, but I was getting the hang of intuition, vision, all, all the rest of it. Yeah. No, no regrets. No regrets. Let’s see what happened after that. Wendy.

Wendy Valentine: Yeah.

Allana Pratt: I don’t know how many husbands you’ve had. I’ve had two. So, met first husband. He was, a Wall street trader who was an expat with the bank account. Right. All the things. And I remember, I remember the first vacation he took me on. I was dancing in a club, teaching English by day, dancing in a club with all these hot French girls at night. and he took me on a, a date to the Philippines. He said, bring your bikini and a passport on a date for the weekend. I’m like, oh my God. and I remember him talking about his bonus for the year 1.3. And I was like, oh, that’s probably millions. And I was so proud that I had saved $50,000 at that point, which I ended up using to put myself through Columbia University in New York when I, when I followed him. But I don’t know why I did this, Wendy. But at the time I said, he’s better, I’m worse, he’s smarter, I’m not as smart, he’s superior, I’m inferior. Like, I made money mean. He was more my subconscious. Daddy wounds clicked in and it was my job to get him to love me and choose me and see me. So he was my first, I didn’t know it at the time, but there’s how the universe gives us our lessons so that we grow, if we are alert, aware, lean in, sit in the fire and, and evolve. So that was a six year relationship. There was. We moved to New York, got married, did the whole thing. I went to Columbia. We had the house out in Connecticut. Like, it looks so good.

Wendy Valentine: It was so.

Allana Pratt: And yet I was hiding in the closet to meditate because that was, you know, weird, according to him. And, and I just sort of changed into somebody I wasn’t until I just. That anymore. We did therapy, we did workshops, but that wasn’t going to be a fit. Take a deep breath. Husband number two. Right, right on the heels of my mom getting cancer. And I thought, I didn’t know this at the time, but I thought, okay, no, no, you know, I’m gonna make, make it through this. You know, a man is a plan. And I’ll, I’ll have a baby and I’ll replace the loss of my mom. And this is just life like the first fairy tale. Like, that’s all stupid. Love is stupid. I’m just gonna, like. It was sort of like going from the, the victim, damsel in distress into the boss babe phase. Right?

Wendy Valentine: Yeah.

Allana Pratt: Like, I’m gonna make this happen. I’m in charge. I’m gonna buy the house. I’m gonna, you know, That one only lasted a year. By the time I figured out, oh, my closed heart acted. A closed heart. Really, really angry and super angry that I divorced him. And then Wendy. It was about a 13 year custody battle. It was awful. I lost everything. I lost my house, my savings. I went into a quarter of a million dollars of debt. family members turned against me.

How did you choose to be an intimacy expert?

and then in the end, I lost my son. He chose to live with his dad, the great peace. And he, he succeeded. It was peaceful. No more court.

Wendy Valentine: Yeah.

Allana Pratt: But also no more son to hang out with.

Wendy Valentine: Oh.

Allana Pratt: it was, it was a really tough go.

Wendy Valentine: Yeah.

Allana Pratt: To this very day, I still don’t have contact with my son.

Wendy Valentine: Oh, yeah.

Allana Pratt: He’s now 22. it’s been five years since we’ve spoken, since I’ve been blocked, and it’s been a really tough, you know, we come all the way back to intimacy. How did I choose to be an intimacy expert? Into me. I see. I haven’t, like.

Wendy Valentine: Oh, I love that. Let’s take a moment. Intimacy. I see. Into me. I see. I love that. Okay, sorry. Continue.

Allana Pratt: No, no, no. Thank you.

Wendy Valentine: Amazing.

Allana Pratt: I haven’t liked who I saw. When I looked inside, I felt like I was a failure as a mother, a failure as a woman. Fake. As a business owner. Like, I’m so successful, I can help all these other people. Why am I such a hot mess? So it’s been a real journey of using my business as a spiritual practice to be vulnerable, brave, transparent, share where I’m still a hot mess, own where I’m bloody amazing, and just keep going. Just keep going. So there’s your. There’s your story.

Wendy Valentine: I love that. There’s so much there that was so meaty. I love that you. first of all, thank you for sharing all of that, because I feel, especially as women, we are supposed to appear like we have our. All of our shit together, and it’s either one or the other, right? Like, you have all your shit together or you don’t. And you cannot, like, stand in your power if you don’t have all of your shit together. And. And I love that about you, that you’re still. You are shining your light so freaking bright, even though. And we always. I feel like we always will have these little dark places within us that it’s not like you just arrive and, you know, like, we are awakened and that’s it. We’re good to go. Nothing else will harm us anymore. No, that’s not true. We will continue to have losses. We will continue to have heartbreak. But it’s how you see yourself and how you carry yourself throughout the rest of your life. I mean. I mean, you think about it too, right? Especially at midlife, right? Our parents, going through illness or friends and family going through illness, death, divorces, even, like, I mean, if you think about it, even if we’re not going through a divorce or some type of, breakup, our friends do, and it changes the dynamic. Like, there’s all sorts of birdies leaving the nest. Like, all sorts of going on menopause. Like, it’s all the. It’s all the craze these days. Our bodies are changing. You know, like everything is happening and it’s like. But you, I love, in the very beginning you had said, we create.

Allana Pratt: Yeah.

Wendy Valentine: our lives, we created our realities. You may not be able to control every single thing around you, but you have yourself. And it’s the into me I see. Right. And. And that is such a powerful question to even ask ourselves. What do you see?

Allana Pratt: Oh, there’s so many little Alanas inside. there’s probably like 20. Like the ashamed Atlanta, the insecure Atlanta, the badass Atlanta, the erotic Atlanta, the goofball Atlanta, the sexy Atlanta, the smart Atlanta, the not so smart atlant. There’s so many Atlantas inside. And so my goal, if I have such a thing, but I never get there. So it’s more like the journey is, can I invite them all to the table? Yeah. Even that one. Even that one. Right. And not have one get the prize and the crown and the other one, you know, get the booby prize? Like, no. Everybody’s equally loved. Can I learn? Can I. Can I strive to actually be the embodiment of unconditional love and be home in myself? Home with God, home with the divine, Home with my cellulite, home with my video.

Wendy Valentine: All the things.

Being an entrepreneur is hard. And there’s many times I wanted to give up

Allana Pratt: Right. and that, to me, is a daily practice. And I’m. I’ve created a structure where I get to show up every day for my clients, and there’s no way I’m going to ask them to be or do something if I won’t, you know, do the same myself, you know, give myself the same challenge. And I’ve got all my coaches because I can’t see my blind spots to save my life either. So it’s a real raw, intense, delicious, heartfelt, way. Way to live. And there’s so many times, I don’t know about you, how long you’ve been an entrepreneur, but 2005 is when I first incorporated. So there’s many times I wanted to give up. But here’s what I’ve noticed, which is so delicious with our day and age of like the Internet and the rest of it. I can remember one client flew me get this to Scotland to do her vip. Oh, my God. So I said, well, I’m gonna go all the way to Scotland. I’m gonna stay an extra week. So there I am, and I’m driving around on the wrong side of the road and, and these castles and these little. So I go to this one Little Island. There’s 125 people on the island. There’s one place for dinner. Better make a reservation. So I sit down. So. So, Ms. Pratt, what would you like for dinner? I’m like, oh, how did you know my name? That’s lovely. The chef follows you on YouTube. Stop it. What? There’s a little island in the middle of the ocean in Scotland where somebody watches YouTube. Oh, my God. And I just stood there for a second going, holy crap. We really have no idea the difference we make when we show up. That smile at the clerk at a grocery store can change someone’s life.

Wendy Valentine: Right?

Allana Pratt: Right. Putting out a simple blog where you’re like, who even read this? You never, never know. I was even just in Sedona last fall, with one of my coaches. I was at a coaching program. There were some of the other participants, and we’re leaving the little cafe, and this gentleman comes up to me, goes, are you Alana Pratt? I go, oh, hi. Are you in the group? There’s like, 60 of us. I think I was, like, embarrassed. I didn’t notice him. he’s like, no, no. I’ve been following you since 2009. There’s something about the way the energy comes through your eyes that just makes me feel better as a freaking stranger out of nowhere. So, it makes me go. Those are the moments that when I want to give up. Being an entrepreneur is hard. Some months are lean, Some months are, like, abundant. I’ve got a global staff. Our YouTube channel was hacked. Like, we go through all these, like, crazy things, right? We got it back now, but it was. It was scary there for a little bit. But, like, those are the moments where I’m like, no, no, you make a difference with one. That’s all. Just like that little statement they say, you know, that. That thing about the starfish? You know, the person’s throwing the starfish back in the ocean, they’re like, why are you doing it? You know, there’s just so many. Well, I saved that one, right? Yeah, you can love that one. Then I can rest at night, at peace.

Wendy Valentine: Yeah. That’s a good motivational speech just for me right now.

Allana Pratt: Well, good, good, good, good. Ms. M. Yeah.

Wendy Valentine: No matter, like, whoever’s listening right now, it does. You don’t have to have a YouTube channel. You don’t have to have a podcast. You don’t have to be an author. You make such a difference in the world with. No matter what you do.

Allana Pratt: Yeah.

Wendy Valentine: just being a woman, period. You made a huge difference in the world. Right. You are.

Allana Pratt: You are love. You are love.

Wendy Valentine: And I think that all the more Reason that you have to awaken, you have to see within yourself totally and embrace all of you. Like what you were saying earlier. Embrace all parts of you.

Susan Northrup says intimacy with yourself is fundamental to all successful relationships

Allana Pratt: Yeah.

Wendy Valentine: And I think that’s the beauty of midlife. I feel like when I got to midlife, you know, it was like, oh shit, wait, what have I been doing? What am I doing now? And what am I gonna do?

Allana Pratt: Like, and why.

Wendy Valentine: Yeah, exactly. Like I wanted more fulfillment. Yeah.

Allana Pratt: Yeah.

Wendy Valentine: And I feel like, yeah. And it’s, it’s such a beautiful time for a woman to truly embrace all of her magnificence and, and to do something, it’s not so much doing something great for the world, although it, no matter what you do, it does, it does something great for no matter how small or how, how big that you do something, you’re making a difference for you and it’s fulfilling. Yeah. And yeah. I think it’s, it’s. I love, I love seeing a woman that knows herself and loves herself. There’s something. There’s nothing more beautiful than that.

Allana Pratt: Thank you. I think it’s magnetic.

Wendy Valentine: Yeah.

Allana Pratt: Happens like, like we are. Ultimately. When I said we create our life at the beginning of the interview, I didn’t mean we create. Exactly.

Wendy Valentine: yes.

Allana Pratt: Lions and exactly. However, no, no, We’re a vibration. We’re a vibration. We create the vibration. Now how the universe wants to play with us in that figure 8. When we send that vibration out and what comes back, like that’s a show. We have no clue what that’s going to be. But it will be the vibration of, oh, woe is me, I’m a victim, martyr. Or it’ll be the vibration of I’m a badass who’s humble, flawed and fabulous. What you got? How can I play? Right, like you’re going to have a different kind of life with that. And I think one of the things we underestimate is the power and potency of our presence.

Allana Pratt: Like for, for I’m sure you, you know, who you can call at 3 in the morning and, and who will listen and who won’t pick up or if you did call, would make it all about them, wouldn’t really, you know, like those special people who have the capacity to not fix, just listen, say thank you, tell me more. Where’s the tequila? Come over. You know, like this person, Presence is priceless. And we cannot give that gift if we don’t give it to ourself. If we have emotions that come up that we bypass, if we have traumas that we’re not willing to sit in the fire and do the work and integrate if we’re doing fakey, fake face, you know, how are you fine when we’re really not? It reads as. It actually reads like you don’t care, which is not the truth, but that’s how it reads. Or reads as arrogance or shallowness, when really it’s just a lack of intimacy with yourself. So that, to me is why I believe our intimate relationships with ourselves, it’s like the fundamental core building block of all successful relationships. It has to be our number one relationship. Can you look in the mirror? I like you. Love you. I see you. I’m gonna slow down and breathe you. What do you need? And not just to your eyes in the mirror with your soul, but your body. Oh, tension in the shoulders. What am I shouldering? Ooh, that situation gives me a bit of some nauseousness. What is it about it? I can’t see. Stomach, hips, not moving forward. Yeah, we’re getting older. I know, but like, what are we scared to step into and risk our bodies? Talk. And I remember interviewing, I’ve interviewed lots of lovely people over the years. Probably over 800 at this point. It’s just been. It’s how I stay a student and how I say humble. but When I interviewed Dr. Christian Northrup one of the times, she said, I just cleared out my living room, there’s nothing in it because I tango. And I’m like, oh, you’re so hot right now. Her priority as she was moving on. So I, I get great inspiration from people that go against the grain in their midlife and beyond. and just live. Live full out.

Wendy Valentine: Yeah. Live out loud.

Allana Pratt: Yeah. I even had people in their 70s come to my last retreat. Susan came to me at 78, single, and then, in one of the dyads with another member of the community, it was leaked out that she had some sort of Matchma thing. So we said, oh, you better get on that. So she met Ed. And then Ed and Susan came to the retreat. He’s 75, a younger man, and she’s 79 now. And they’re still like showing up for intimacy. Right. It’s never, ever too late to, to blossom open. To blossom.

Wendy Valentine: Yeah. And you know what to. I feel like a lot of times with just.

Intimacy is so much more than just sex, right

Okay, intimacy, we think of that as just sex or just the physical aspect of that. Right. But intimacy is so much more. And it’s. Yeah, it’s not just like sex is like the, the, the bonus out of the whole thing, Right?

Allana Pratt: Oh, my God.

Wendy Valentine: If at all. Right. But I, mean, intimacy is. It’s such a big word. Really.

Allana Pratt: Yeah.

So what does intimacy mean to you? Well, it’s where you’re vulnerable

Wendy Valentine: So what does intimacy mean to you?

Allana Pratt: Well, besides into me. I see. So it’s this relationship with yourself. It’s when you are with another and you’re. You’re finding things in. In common of where you have shared values or shared perspectives or shared, you know, these different aspects of your. Of your vision for life. But to me, it’s also where you drop your walls, open your heart, and you’re transparent and you’re vulnerable. And you’re not looking to them to complete you, make you happy, save you, approve of you. Like your whole. So you’re like, here I am. The good, the bad, the ugly. Hi. And then they’re giving you the same. And then it’s not this transactional. You give me this, I’ll give you that tit for tat. It’s this figure 8 that starts to happen. Where my vulnerable share awakens something in you. And then it’s something that was all that was dormant before our interaction. And then it wakes up and then you shine it towards me or communicate it or touch or sound or movement or ideas or communication, however it is. And then. Oh, it awakens something in me. And then it’s like this figure 8, this infinity symbol where we’re more together without trying, without being attached to the result completely in the unknown seen by the other. And you can do that silent, with breath. You can do that slowly, with touch. You can do that with communication and questions. You can do that with lovemaking. Like, there’s so many different ways, you can be. Is authentic and real and present back to presence again. Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy Valentine: And then just being able to be yourself in a relationship.

Allana Pratt: Yeah. Authentic.

Wendy Valentine: I mean, in. In, I would say my. One of my marriages, I didn’t feel like I could be myself.

Allana Pratt: Yeah.

Wendy Valentine: I, Wendy was either too loud or too bright or to this or to that. So therefore, what did Wendy do? She would not shine. She would be quiet. She would do all the. So that I don’t get abandoned and so that I’m loved and blah, blah, blah. And then one day, little Wendy wakes up and is like, girl cannot do this. Like, I mean, like my soul was dying totally parched. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, I feel like. I mean, a lot of women might feel that way of feeling, like they can’t truly be themselves.

Allana Pratt: Yeah.

Wendy Valentine: And it. If you were to be yourself, then that equals losing either the relationship or other things. In your life. And. And I had to take that risk. I mean. You had to take that risk.

Allana Pratt: Yeah.

Wendy Valentine: Right. Like, like, but it. For myself, like, I. I had to do it.

Allana Pratt: Yeah.

Wendy Valentine: I couldn’t. I couldn’t. I couldn’t have gone on.

Allana Pratt: Totally true. Or you’ll get my. My mom died at 61. She. I think that just all ate away and created cancer. So you don’t be brave. Some bankruptcies or cancers or various other, things could happen to you. As a wake up call. As a wake up call to go. This is not aligned with your soul. Let’s make a new choice. So back to the source of that. Well, there’s another source of that source.

Wendy Valentine: But.

Allana Pratt: But to me, I was still seeking my approval in the man.

Wendy Valentine: Yes.

Allana Pratt: My safety in the man. My worth in the man. All these things. And like, I still hadn’t learned how to cultivate wholeness on the inside. So I was looking to him to complete me. So I have complete compassion for that girl that did that and stayed as long as I did because I was looking outside in, not inside out. And where did I learn that? From parents who didn’t do the coaching that I now do. So they had the best that they did. So they showed me an unhealthy relationship. Dad was drunk and Stone and mom was kind of, you know, checked out. Codependent.

I was abandoned when I was a child. My greatest fear was being abandoned

Right? So I’m like, oh, that’s love. Not so we go back to our core wounds. Not to blame our parents, but to go, oh, I’m trying to fulfill that unmet, need in my current relationship. So let’s heal it in both directions, backwards and forwards, and become not perfect, but whole. I’m the source of my happiness, my safety, my worth. And when we do that feel to me, it feels like little Russian dolls. Like, there’s little Atlanta and then there’s big Atlanta holding little Atlanta. And then, then there’s big, like God, divine goddess, God, whatever you want to call the divine, holding all of us. And then so, so we can exhale, we can soften, we can open. Because we’re resting into the divine and our little you inside. When she pipes up and she’s like, I scared. He’s so scared. We’re like, okay, you have every right to be scared. Tell me more. Not the old way of, like, you’re scared. Shut up. Change. Gotta be happy. Gotta get the guy, gotta get the money. Like, that’s the old way. I used to treat myself like I used to hit little you with a two by four of criticism. And now Instead, I lean in and I. And I honor her. And I say, hey, baby, every way that you’ve grown up, of course that’s how you feel. Your autonomic nervous system is freaking out right now. Here, let me help you. You know, at your pace. Not my pace, your pace. And when you’re ready. And my autonomic nervous system goes back to zero. And I have this sense of oneness inside along that is wisdom and clarity and connection to the divine and embodiment in connection to Mother Gaia and all as well. And from that place, then we make a choice. Not from the desperate, scary place, because I’ve made lots of quote unquote mistakes, but really they were just choices made when I was spinning like a maniac, terrified. Right. And I can. I can forgive her too.

Wendy Valentine: Yeah. I mean, it’s like, what, you know, you have to forgive. You know, not that. What’s the saying, you know, not. That’s what you do or, you know, like, you. It was like you were taught, you were doing the best that you. That you could with what you were taught. Right?

Allana Pratt: Totally. Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy Valentine: And I love that you said earlier, it’s not like you have to go back to your childhood to blame, but it’s finding that common thread for sure. And you know, for me, I. I was. I was abandoned when I was a child. And then from that. Yeah. And then from that, it’s like I became this really good, codependent, people pleasing, approval seeking, like, I mean, a perfectionist. I was so good at it.

Allana Pratt: Yes.

Wendy Valentine: To avoid anyone leaving me, abandoning me. And then sometimes at the point that I would abandon first just so I would not be the one that was abandoned.

Allana Pratt: 100.

Wendy Valentine: And then finally I wake up in my late 40s and I realize, shit. All this time I was so, My greatest fear was being abandoned, but really, I was abandoning me.

Ringo: I do psychedelic somatic integration work for clients

Allana Pratt: Ringo, back to intimacy. Oh, that’s a little windy. That we never. Terrified.

Wendy Valentine: We.

Allana Pratt: Well, here’s the deal.

Wendy Valentine: We.

Allana Pratt: I’ve learned so much about trauma. I do psychedelic somatic integration work now. I’ve been.

Wendy Valentine: Oh, that’s so awesome.

Allana Pratt: it is the. It has been like the magic piece for me and my clients like to catapult our results.

Wendy Valentine: Yeah.

Allana Pratt: So just what I’ve discovered is when we do the looking on the outside thing, we’re actually dissociated. We’re not even in our body. We’re level four trauma. We’re not in our body. We’re out there a million miles an hour, hyper vigilantly seeking a Solution to survive. So the narrative is, where’s the next person who’s going to leave me?

Wendy Valentine: That’s you.

Allana Pratt: For me it was, where’s the next person who’s going to abuse me? Right. So like, that’s the narrative. So what do you find those kind of people, right? You’re not in your body, so you can’t feel your heart, you can’t hear your intuition, and you’re going a million miles an hour and your adrenals are shot. And you. And level four trauma has that fakie fake face. Oh, I’m fine. Right? And you’re numb. You’re absolutely numb. So when I discovered, oh, that’s been my whole life, which has created a certain degree of success, but it’s all based on a house of cards. And then you come back into the body. Level 3 trauma in no fun. It’s, hopeless. What’s the point? It’s really dealing with reality of what we’ve created without judgment. It actually, on a physical level, has a lot of nauseousness because you’re having to look at everything you haven’t been able to stomach, digest about your choices. It’s a gnarly stage. So without a facilitator. Right. With you, it can be a lot to process. So I’m. I have this beautiful blessing of being able to be with my clients. I’m, right here. Take me with you. I got you. I got you. I’m, right here. I love you. Let’s keep feeling. Not strategizing. Pushing the old, you know, masculine energy way. The feminine render being this way because the body knows what it’s doing. And if you get out of the way, get the mind out of the way, get the. Try to get to the goal, get that out of the way and just be. Level three trauma will go to level two trauma. More fun. Short 30 seconds. 60 seconds. But this is where that pocket of panic or rage y something that you were never allowed to fully feel to completion as a kid, it’s still in there. And it’s even in there from past lives. There’s a lot of that’s in there. So when, when that amount of energy comes with a client, they’re like, I’m gonna die. I’m like, I know it feels like you’re gonna die. Take me with you. Here’s a pillow to hit. Here’s something to scream. Hold my hand. I got you. But we feel through these, previously thought to be unfeelable emotions. No, they’re not. They just were not meant to do it alone. Trauma occurs in relationship, and healing trauma occurs in relationship. So I become the. The surrogate parent, the divine mother, the divine father, whatever energy they need, and they get through that level two trauma of, like, holy hell. And then they get to level one relief. Oh, my God, I’m alive. Because the body felt that as a little kid being abandoned, which would mean, oh, if I don’t have a roof over my head and food in my mouth, I will die. So the body thinks it’s gonna die, and that’s accurate. So when you get to level one, oh, my God, I made it. I made it. I made it. I go, yes, you did. Let’s stay there. Let’s just start to resource. Start to resource. The body knows what it’s doing. And if you don’t go off and start thinking, if you stay surrendered to the body, it’ll go to zero. Wendy. Zero is complete oneness with all. And not. Not getting rid of the fear. The fear’s been integrated into power or courage. The.

When we integrate difficult things, we clear space for our soul to literally come into body

The shame, has maybe been integrated into more of an unapologetic expression. That’s. That’s quiet power. Silent power. Like, there’s wisdom, integration, oneness with all. It’s almost like you can swim through the room. The energy is so thick because they’re back in their body. They’re like, oh, this is what you mean by embodiment. I’m like, yeah.

Wendy Valentine: Yes.

Allana Pratt: And there’s no thought. And there. And it doesn’t go away. It doesn’t go away. That. It’s called a wave. That wave has been integrated in the nervous system, and everything makes sense. And there’s no more blaming, and there’s no more shaming.

Wendy Valentine: And it’s so exquisite, and you feel so light, just dropping all of that heavy baggage.

Allana Pratt: Totally light, but also totally connected and willing to be here. Yeah.

Wendy Valentine: So I had my. I didn’t share this, but I had my aha moment during a ketamine journey.

Allana Pratt: Ah, okay.

Wendy Valentine: And that was when I literally. And I was smiling the whole time you were describing that, because I was like, yep, yep. I could totally relate because there was, like, a peak of the darkness, and then it started to kind of change into the lightness. But through all of that darkness, that was when I realized, sorry, I’m in the desert. My throat’s, like, so dry.

Allana Pratt: Oh, good.

Wendy Valentine: But I realized that, yeah, I can step aside. My soul has got this. And I literally had this conversation with my soul, and my soul is like, wendy, you’ve. You’ve had These fears you’re going to be abandoned and all of that. Like I got you girl. You can tell little Wendy, we got this. Let me like step aside and let me handle it from here on out. And it was just like, oh, I don’t need to have this like carry this heavy armor and try to protect and try to like. It was, it was so much energy as, you know, like doing that, through my lifetime of like always being on guard, always like watching this and my mind was just overwhelmed. Like I couldn’t. Yeah, it was like constantly protecting, constantly protecting. And I was like, oh, it’s. I don’t want, I don’t have to do that anymore.

Allana Pratt: See, what you just said was not only brilliant. I want to explain the science behind what you just said.

Wendy Valentine: Yep.

Allana Pratt: We’re soul. Yes, very truly talk to you. But we can’t have our soul in our body. When our body is filled with unprocessed trauma, there’s no room, there’s no room at the end. So when we integrate these very difficult things, we clear space for our light body, our soul to literally come into our body. And then we know things that we ought not to know. It connects all the way up to the top of our head in the center, our pineal, which is like connected to non local intelligence. So you, you hear the whispers of God. You come down through a heart that’s open and brave. Maybe not thrilled with the circumstance, maybe not preferring what the circumstances, but able to respond, not react because your heart is open down into your power where your soul lies down in your hips. And then it’s like a sense of home and wholeness that I’ve never experienced in all of my decades on this planet. And now to be able to give it to my clients. Fulfillment and then results. Oh my God, like drinking addiction’s gone. Sex addiction’s gone. Single into your 60s, all of a sudden meeting a great life partner. all the different ways that it supports people leaving a job because the paycheck felt like if you left the paycheck you were gonna die. These are all the different results that people get when we can go. And it’s subconscious. Like we have a great, we have a pretty much an idea of maybe what’s going on in there because of the results in our life. A lot of times those beliefs, those emotions, we didn’t know they’re subconscious. It’s like a,

Wendy Valentine: Yeah, totally. Exactly. That’s the reason why they call it subconscious. They’re so far down in there and that was one of mine. Like, it. Like, once it hit me, I was like, duh. But it was so obvious. But then it was so hidden.

Allana Pratt: Yes, yes, yes.

Wendy Valentine: And it wasn’t like, even if someone had said it told me, I still wouldn’t have really gotten it. No, it had to been felt. It had to be like, I’m the one that had to dig that up to bring it to the surface and go, okay, I got it. Oh, it’s such a freaking relief. And I want to say, too, like, one of the. The. The other thing that I experienced during that journey was in the very beginning, it got super dark and super scary.

Allana Pratt: Totally.

Wendy Valentine: And that was actually one of my fears in doing the whole thing to begin with. And then it was so crazy because it was like this. I don’t know, I just felt like it was in the scary movie. And then all of a sudden, I was just like, I don’t.

Allana Pratt: I,

Wendy Valentine: Literally, in my mind, was saying, I don’t like this darkness. Like, it’s. I’m over it. And I. I was so frustrated.

The only way through to the light is through the shadow

I was like, I’m over this. I am so over it. Which really, the deeper meaning of that. I was over my own darkness. I was like, I’m done with this shit. Like, I. I want to be able to live my life in peace. Like, I’m done with it. And literally, like, it just would, like, just all of the darkness just turn. I was like. And, like, this light comes in. And what I got from that tiny little experience, which became a big experience, was that I had the power in myself to change that dark. I don’t have to cling to the darkness. I don’t. I have the power to create more light in my life.

Allana Pratt: Yeah. Yeah. And, not. Not. But. But the only way through to the light is through the shadow. You can’t just go travel. life is good. Everything has to be, you know, spiritual bypass. Like, it doesn’t work like that. You actually have to go through hell to get to heaven, through the darkness and the shadow and be able to be with it. With your wits about you, your. Your heart open and really look the dragon in the face and go, okay, all right, I got this. Yeah.

Wendy Valentine: I mean, you and I would not be having this conversation if we have not experienced our own dark night of the soul. Right? Like, I mean, that’s why sometimes, like, if there’s something. Not that I’m welcoming, shitty stuff in my life, but if something dark comes my way, I’m like, okay, okay, what you got? What you Got for me. What can I learn from this? Like, there’s something.

Allana Pratt: Yeah.

Wendy Valentine: And it doesn’t mean that anything that bad that happens in your life, it has to totally take you down those. I feel like the stronger you get, the more that you shine your light, the darkness isn’t as heavy and creepy. And you. You. It’s almost like you trust in it, you embrace it. Right. Like, embracing all parts of us. We embrace the darkness that can come our way.

Allana Pratt: Yeah. Yeah. I think that’s one of the favorite things about, like, I. My ass doesn’t look like it did when I was a dancer in my twenties, I will admit. but I feel sexier than I do.

Wendy Valentine: Yes. Yeah.

Allana Pratt: Yeah. Right. So one of the things I love about midlife, if you do the work, you feel sexier maybe than you actually.

Wendy Valentine: Ought to, but who cares?

Allana Pratt: Because you’re so alive and free.

Midlife can be the best ever. Because you’ve got, like, this new sense of wisdom

and I see, like, I have, a client. She just renewed for another year. When she came to me, she was quite jacked up on, antidepressants, medications. No one had ever taught her that anxiety is. There’s not a problem. It’s called an emotion. And then we learn how to integrate it, and then we’re. Then we’re brave. No one had ever taught her that. She’s like, oh, anything other than happy place, let’s take more drugs or drink or do whatever we’re gonna do. So she’d been on them for 40 years.

Wendy Valentine: Oh, gosh, yes.

Allana Pratt: So she weaned off, and she had to learn what it is to actually be in her body, be present, be with her emotions. She had to learn to love like the little Alana’s little Wendy’s inside.

Wendy Valentine: Yeah.

Allana Pratt: As much when they’re scared is when they’re happy. And people’s reflection back to her is, you’re more present, you’re more here. You’re more authentic, you’re more alive. Yes. She’s like, but this is hard. I go, yeah, welcome to life. Welcome to life.

Wendy Valentine: Yes.

Allana Pratt: After you get the hang of it. Just like going to the gym the first couple times. Going to the gym, you’re like, oh, my God, I’m in so much pain, I can barely get down to the toilet. You know, my butt hurts so bad from m. All these squats. But then after a while, you’re strong, you feel great. You go out for hikes, you’re feeling amazing. You put on that new pair of jeans. Like it. You get the results, but you gotta do the work. So me, midlife, it’s a very Clear demarcation of who’s checking out and who’s checking in, who’s bypassing and who’s sitting in the fire. Who’s, And then you can tell by their radiance or their lack thereof. You can tell if their marriage is having affairs or their kids or they’re like. They look like they just fell in love and they’ve been married for 30 years. Like, you can tell. And it’s each. And it’s right back to the beginning. It’s each our own intimate relationship with ourself. That’s what it comes down to. And if we’re not willing to look inside and do the work, I’m sorry, I think we’re just going to bypass and die. So midlife can be the best ever. Because. Because you’ve got, like, this new sense of youthfulness and aliveness, but you got a shitload of wisdom. Nobody can fuck with you. You’re not attached to the results anymore. You’re just. You’re free.

Wendy Valentine: Yeah.

Allana Pratt: And you’re bold and you’re willing to risk because your worth isn’t. Because of the outcome anymore.

Wendy Valentine: Exactly.

Allana Pratt: The accomplishments anymore. Your worth is your.

Wendy Valentine: And, you know, for all the. The people pleasers out there and the approval seekers and the codependents, like, like I shared earlier, I was one of them.

Allana Pratt: Same. Same.

Wendy Valentine: It gets exhausting after a while. And I think that’s why, like, maybe, you know, your 40s or 50s, you’re like, for. For crying out loud. Like. And I mean, I. For me, I realized I was like, well, all of this work I’ve been doing, and there no one seems to give a. Anyways. I’m like, they’re all. You know what I mean? I’m like, they’re all doing their thing and I’m like, it didn’t matter, like, if I was trying, you know, And I think you had a real.

Earlier on Instagram. And it’s about one of your clients

Earlier on Instagram. maybe it might have been today or yesterday.

Allana Pratt: Yeah.

Wendy Valentine: And it’s about one of your clients, and I think he had kind of a similar thing. Like the approval seeker.

Allana Pratt: Oh, yeah. Just his last.

Wendy Valentine: Got the point. The point I was gonna freaking make.

Allana Pratt: Damn it.

Wendy Valentine: And it was gonna be so good.

Allana Pratt: Gonna be good. I knew it was awesome.

Wendy Valentine: I’m gonna blame that on menopause right there. Like. Like, I’m gonna. Brilliant. Every brain fart on menopause.

Allana Pratt: Don’t worry. But I remember I just. I just had a psi with, He was.

Wendy Valentine: Yes.

Allana Pratt: Only 22, and his eyes were permanently dilated because he was so Hyper vigilant. And after day one, we do two days of psi. After day one, his eyes were back to normal because we felt through the terror that literally made his eyes, his eyeballs and his face be like on guard all the time. Because he had misconstrued. It was his job to keep the family together.

Wendy Valentine: That’s what it was. Okay. That’s what it was. Thank you. It was, it was about being the peacemaker.

Allana Pratt: Yes. Yes.

Wendy Valentine: And then you realize you wake up one day. I, for me, I did. And I was like, wait a minute. I cannot make peace with these people. Like my own family, you know? Like, I mean, I, I, the, the day my brother died was like, whoa. Like that’s. I woke up myself actually, because I was like, I could not save him. I can’t save my mom. I can’t save my dad. I can’t make them all happy. I was like, oh. And at the same time I was like, oh, thank God I’m not responsible for everybody. I can’t do it. Like, I cannot. Like, I mean, I haven’t heard enough time just taking care of this, this woman right here.

Allana Pratt: and not take care of everybody.

Wendy Valentine: But I felt so relieved. As opposed to the guilt that I used to carry for so long that I could not help everybody.

Allana Pratt: Yeah.

Wendy Valentine: I was like, oh, I don’t have to carry this anymore.

Allana Pratt: Good for you.

Wendy Valentine: I mean, I didn’t have just a suitcase. I had a U haul truck of I was carrying around. And it was just so nice to put that down and to be like, you know what? And it’s like a lot. It’s acceptance.

Allana Pratt: Yeah.

Wendy Valentine: They are who they are. People are going to be. They do what they do. Let them. Even for like my own children. Right. I have three boys. Even when I. Right. Like you see them fall. Yep, Yep. You fell. You figure out how to get back up. It is not my responsibility to pick you up.

Allana Pratt: Right. You know what you’re saying? Because there’s many in my case anyways. There’s been many layers. Like there’s the awareness that I’m being responsible for them versus to them. And then I can, I can forgive myself. I can do the processing in the top, top of the iceberg. Right. The little tippy up, tippy top. But then there’s the iceberg under the water where it’s still lodged in my body. And literally this morning I was dancing around. I have this big faux fake sheepskin 8 by 10 rug in the living room and it’s there on purpose. And I walk past it a lot because I just stay in my head and I just push forward. But on a really brave day, I get down on my ass and I put on the recording and I move it through my body. And it’s my right shoulder, Wendy, my right shoulder, my masculine shoulders. Responsible for others. And as I was rolling around this morning, I just had another wave of tears about my son this morning.

Somatic integration work helps you let go of negative emotions

and, and my, my, my arm that just. I don’t know what happened for you on ketamine, but on the psychedelic Somatic integration work, when, when it leaves the body, it’ll often shake. It’ll be heat or it’ll like shake, discharge. And so my arm this morning, my shoulder, it was like aching. I just felt like there was a death in there, like an ego death. It felt just like, if you can imagine feeling nauseous in your shoulder, that’s what it felt like. And then my arm started to shake and I just let it go. And I just said, I can’t be responsible for him.

Wendy Valentine: Yeah.

Allana Pratt: I can’t punish myself that he’s not talking to me, me any longer.

Wendy Valentine: I know.

Allana Pratt: Can’t do it. I can’t. I need to be able to move on. And it’s. I had this mixed up belief that it was a betrayal of him if I just moved on and was happy or betrayal of me. I should wait around and be the martyr. And I’m just like, no, neither of those are working. I, gotta let go. I gotta take care of mama and have a sexy fantastic life.

Wendy Valentine: Yeah.

Allana Pratt: And the arm and the shoulder let go and the tears came through. And then I felt more, more flow of, of, of home in my body. So it’s important in the brain, but we can’t let go of the body. Also holding on to these traumas over time, we want to take care of the whole enchilada because it will cripple.

Wendy Valentine: It will cripple you. Right. Mentally, emotionally, physically and totally, you know, back to emotion. I always think of emotion as energy in motion. E equals motion. Like, and I. And once I really got that, I wasn’t so scared of my emotions. Right. We’re human beings being human. We, we were, thank God we were built with all of these emotions. It teaches us something. If you, will stop and listen like you said, and learn, learn from the emotions. What are they teaching you? And if there’s something that keeps coming back over and over and over again, it’s time to stop and ask yourself, like, what, what, what you got? Like what what’s underneath this? I mean, sometimes it’s again, like, taking that shovel and really getting underneath there. There’s something there. And sometimes it doesn’t. Re. It’ll reveal itself in the oddest of times, and whatever it comes, it’ll come. But if you keep asking, eventually it will come.

Allana Pratt: Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy Valentine: I wanted to share that. I love. On your website, you guys have got. After you get done listening to Atlanta and I, You’ve got to go to her website and you have this testimonial video. It’s like several of your clients leaving testimonials. It’s very, very powerful. Like, there were so many. I was just like, oh, I could relate to, like, almost every single person. And it was interesting. you know what I was saying earlier about the sex? It was like, okay, you’re expecting everyone just to be on there talking about. No, it all had to do with how they felt about themselves.

Allana Pratt: Totally.

Wendy Valentine: And there was one lady in particular. She was talking about the unraveling, and she’s like, I’m, She’s like, I found that, like, I. I don’t really grasp it until I have to unravel first. And I’ve thought about that too. Right. Like, sometimes you have to deconstruct.

Allana Pratt: Yes.

Wendy Valentine: And then reconstruct. Like, you have to unravel. And I think she called it, like, just rebuilding.

Allana Pratt: Yes.

Wendy Valentine: And. And that’s okay. That’s kind of back to the dark night of the soul chat of, like, it’s okay. Let the unravel deconstruct. Yeah. Either tear it down by, like, you either proactively tear it down or it gets teared down. Right.

Allana Pratt: Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy Valentine: And then you rebuild. And. And what’s nice is, like, you’ll. You can start with a clean slate, and. And then you go, okay, what do I want? What. Who do. And most importantly, who do I want to be? What is. Who is the woman that I want to be as I move forward in this life? It’s not up to mom and dad and the. The exes and the. All that society and society and Instagram, who. No.

Mondays says being in midlife can be destabilizing

Allana Pratt: Or even the kids, what the kids want. Right. No.

Wendy Valentine: And that’s tough. I feel like, you know, ah, again, being in midlife, and most of us are, you know, with empty nesters or we have children. We, have adult children.

Allana Pratt: Yes.

Wendy Valentine: Children that are having children already. Right. Like, so it’s this kind of. It’s a different dynamic, and it’s like, you’re there, but you’re not there. You’re kind Of a friend, you’re kind of a parent. You’re kind of like, you know, it’s this weird spot. Like, yeah, like the helicopter moms are probably like, oh, like I can’t hover anymore.

Allana Pratt: Like, right. And so then who am I? Why am I still here? The way I see it, I like this unraveling and, you know, peeling away the layers. Since I’ve been starting to do the psychedelic somatic integration work, it’s very clear the body holds all these traumas. And as it gets cleaned out, what I tend to notice is the identity that was created to survive the traumas. It doesn’t have anything to stand on anymore because the traumas aren’t there. So this way of thinking, this way of being, this shtick that we used to do this priority, we thought we valued this, we thought this was who we were. It starts to crumple as well, which is very destabilizing, quite disorienting because you think you know who you are. My God, I’ve been at this for 40, 50 years. Like, no, but you. But then it goes away too. But here’s what happens if. And that’s why all my clients work with me for a year. I think it’s irresponsible just to give them a little bit of a breakthrough and then they destabilize all by themselves and have a nervous breakdown. No, you’re going to be in community. I got you the whole thing. So once this second layer, this identity starts to dissolve, what I discover is, like I said earlier, the soul that spoke to you in your journey is now speaking to us not from up, up there, but from inside. Because we’ve created this room, especially in our hips, for that soul to turn on and speak to us. So what we decide to do and who we are and what all these choices we decide aren’t ego shtick identities. To survive and look good and be happy. And, you know, that’s not the motivation anymore. It’s really your soul’s contract. Maybe before it was karmic contracts. Right? Now it’s soul contracts. Now it’s soul, joy, truth. We don’t give a fuck if people agree or not. And it’s. There’s. It’s quieter. It’s quieter because there’s nothing to prove. There’s not so much attachment. It’s more of a day to day basis because we don’t need to have like three, three years figured out in order to feel safe today. Like we can just take it day by day. And I’m And I’m still a newbie at this. I’m still. Still a student of consciousness, I guess we could call it. But I’ve got to say, I love myself more than I ever have, especially the parts that I used to hate when I meet a part that I haven’t brought home. Even though we might have a bit of a standoff for a little bit, I’m like, fine, come here. I love you. Sorry. Please forgive me. Hooponopono, right? I let you know, the whole thing, it’s quicker integrations and then the reflection I get from others. Is it safer to be around me? Safer and safer to be around me. Safer to share that taboo thing they haven’t shared with anybody, because as I don’t judge myself, they know that I won’t judge them. And we can just be in truth and sit in the fire, sit in the muck, and just in its own time, allow a new flower of your soul to blossom and grow. And I don’t know about you, but I just feel like I’m just getting started. Like, I’m 55. Like, what else is possible for the next 50, right?

Wendy Valentine: I know. Yeah, I like it. There’s, Jody Wellman. She’s the author of 4, 000 Mondays, and she was on the show not too long ago. She’s, so cool. She’s such a trip nice. But 4, 000 Mondays, meaning, like, on average, I think it’s like, if we get to live until, like, 75, 70, whatever it is, that we’ll have 4, 000 Mondays. 4, 000 Mondays is nothing. And now I’m kind of like, just like you. Like, I’m just getting started. I’m like, like, I hope I get. I’m gonna take advantage of every Monday through Sunday.

Wendy says anger is another form of fierce love

Like, you know what I mean? Like, I. I love life even more. I’m so grateful to have life, to be able to express myself to. To finally be Wendy. Yeah. In all parts of this wild woman that I am. Like, I don’t. And, you know, it’s funny, too, especially on, you know, Instagram and everyone’s happy. And people look at me like, oh, you’re so happy all the time. I’m like, no, I’m not. I was pissed off yesterday, like, or the first day. Like, we were. You and I were supposed to. To have our interview. I wasn’t feeling good. I was off, you know, I was like, no, we’re not meant to be perfect. Like, you’re just supposed to live and. And Live and love and laugh and enjoy and. And. And not. Not. Not criticize. Criticize yourself and judge yourself for whoever you are.

Allana Pratt: Yeah, that’s. And back to intimacy again into me. I see. Do we see these parts of ourselves and judge them? You know, I’m good if I’m happy, and I’m bad if I’m angry. Like. Or can we go high anger? What if anger is another form of fierce love? What are you telling. Anger? Right. So, like, welcoming all these parts and then with intimacy, even though we might, you know, we’re on the other half of the. The 50 years or 40 years or whatever. one moment is eternity when you’re present.

Wendy Valentine: Yeah.

Allana Pratt: Everything is so rich and yummy. But when I was in my head, you know, three steps ahead in hyper vigilance, I was missing my whole life. So I find, yes, there’s like, I want to do this, and I want to go there. Like, there’s an excitement and an enthusiasm, and one little tiny moment is everything when you’re present with the butterfly or my kitty cat or now with you on this podcast. Right. Like, there’s so much here, and it makes that fulfillment that I was seeking or that satisfaction that I was seeking so many times it was out there when it was really inside all along. Yeah.

Wendy Valentine: M. You’re such a bright light.

Allana Pratt: Oh, thank you. Thank you. I hope you drive your RV by my house and we can hang out.

Wendy Valentine: Oh, yes. I think probably August. August. August I’ll be.

Allana Pratt: August.

Wendy Valentine: September I’ll be cruising up.

Allana Pratt: Sounds amazing. Sounds amazing.

Wendy Valentine: We’ll have a little Fireside Chat.

Allana Pratt: I’d love that. Yes. Yes.

Atlanta Pratt will launch a Patreon channel starting April 1st

Wendy Valentine: So where can we find you? And what. What all do you offer?

Allana Pratt: Oh, yeah. So my name is pretty much everywhere, so my site is Alana Pratt dot com. Instagram is forward slash Atlanta Pratt. YouTube forward slash Atlanta Pratt. All of that. The podcast, Intimate Conversations. Hundreds and hundreds of episodes. Website has over 800 pieces of resource, like videos and podcasts and articles. So. Huge resource on my website. we just finished our retreat. We’re not doing another one till February next year. But, the community that I coach, is an extraordinary group of people who really do the work. Sometimes they find their beloved there. I’m not a matchmaker, but, you know, like birds or other, you know, hang together. But mostly it’s like, wow. A place to go every single week where I can be real right away, drop in right away, open up right away. If I’m a hot mess, I’m loved. If I’m celebrating something, everyone Else says, you know, don’t get too excited. You know, we get excited, like, we can do like all ends of the scale. So if it’s a, fit, there’s, there’s something called an intimacy breakthrough experience. Call on my website so you can sign up and we can connect one on one. So those are, those are all the ways you can play. And then lastly, we are launching Patreon, my very first patreon channel, starting April 1st. I don’t know when this is going to air, but this is my structure, permission really to give myself to play. To play. This year I, I have some clients who I’ve never met for 13 years. They’re still in my organization, but I’ve only met them on Zoom.

Wendy Valentine: Yeah.

Allana Pratt: So I want an excuse to go visit the clients, the colleagues, the mentors, the friends, and just travel around. Here’s my cat. Yes, you may come up and say hello. This is my van.

Wendy Valentine: Oh, look at that kitty cat.

Allana Pratt: So this is my gift to myself and gift to humanity to, to play, to travel, to explore, and to share more. things that get censored, I guess you could say on other platforms. I’ll put them on Patreon so we can embrace our sensuality, our bodies, those ugly cries.

Wendy Valentine: Yeah.

Allana Pratt: And all the things. So that’s, that’s, that’s something we’re really excited about.

Wendy Valentine: Patreon sounds like you need an rv.

Allana Pratt: You never know. Muffin, would you like that?

Wendy Valentine: Absolute best. Oh my God, I love it, I love it, I love it. Well, thank you so much, Atlanta. I’ve learned a ton and I don’t always get to listen back to my own shows, but this one I want to listen back to.

Allana Pratt: Oh, that’s so beautiful of you. Thank you. Well, I look forward until we get to meet in person. Thank you for the gift that you are to this world as well.

Wendy Valentine: Thank you everyone. Have a great day. A beautiful day.